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    Post  zooken Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:44 pm

    I'm sure everyone loves the idea of world where everyone has access to health care, and not just be the emergency room visits.

    But as it stands not one elected official has read any of the 5 proposed bills, same thing happened with the stimulus and bank bail outs.

    And Massachusetts is on the verge of needing a government bail out because their state wide universal health care plan is failing.

    I welcome discussion and debate.
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    Post  Spartan Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:00 pm

    My comment?

    Least it ain't Hilliary.
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    Post  Grimmjow Jaggerjack Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:08 am

    Well, i'm in spain, where we have "free" health care, and the only thing i know about it in USA is that you can be lying death in front of a hospital, that they won't be helping you if you don't have an insurance


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    Post  zooken Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:12 am

    Hospitals have to "at least" stabilize you, after that they can kick you out. Right now, I don't have insurance, but I can make an appointment with my doctors office, and see someone that day, and only pay $10-$15 for that visit. Emergency on the other hand, flat $200 for just walking-in in most cases followed by an indeterminate wait. $400 ambulance fee, but at least you see someone rather quickly.

    When I was 12 or 13 I got a 3 inch long 1 inch deep gash on my inner left thigh, and 3 inches away from the twig and berries. I had state insurance at the time, because I had no other insurance and was under 21. Got to the emergency room and had to wait 2 hours because I had "controlled the bleeding." Funniest part was 1 year later the doctor that gave me the stitches because ended up as my pediatrician.

    Both uninsured and insured I have never had any problems with the health care I received.
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    Post  PremierRed Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:05 pm

    I've been uninsured, and I've been treated. It would be nice if things were less expensive, but I prefer our current system. In the U.S. that is.
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    Post  Flan Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:33 pm

    I'm a coldhearted bastard and I refuse to pay a single cent to help some poor person who doesn't deserve it (because face it, there are some who do but the vast majority DON'T). Poor people are poor FOR A REASON. -_-
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    Post  Captain_K'nuckles Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:25 pm

    this^
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    Post  Spartan Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:34 pm

    Oh no, Rin's learning to clone himself, WE'RE GONNA FUCKING DIE!!!!!!
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    Post  Flan Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:35 pm

    Live it up while you can. Obama's health care plan won't save you!
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    Post  Captain_K'nuckles Sat Dec 05, 2009 1:56 am

    I feel if people won't work to secure their own health, then they deserve to be unhealthy.

    *Raises Flame Shield*
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    Post  PremierRed Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:57 pm

    Captain_K'nuckles wrote:I feel if people won't work to secure their own health, then they deserve to be unhealthy.

    *Raises Flame Shield*

    I miss the good ol' days when people worked for a living.

    If they didn't, they wouldn't eat. Sadly, that ended about 110 years ago.

    I can only imagine the political fallout if someone woulda tried this in the 1850s. That would be the career-ender of many an elected official.

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